Amps/injectors

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rocar
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Amps/injectors

Post by rocar »

I need to step up voltage from 12v to 16v to the injectors
Is a 16v 10a 180w enough for 12 injectors 1.6 omhs triggered through peak and hold injector drivers
Alex DTA
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by Alex DTA »

You should not run the injectors at 16v as the ECU drives them directly.
You MAY be able to use a solid state relay to do this, but you would need one for each ECU output. You would also need a very good quality, very fast switching relay.

Ohms law says 16 v /1.6 Ohms = 10 Amps per injector.
If you have two injectors per output (as you must with 12 injectors) your resistance drops to 0.8 Ohms, which means they will draw 20 Amps.

I think you will have a lot of problems doing this.

You can only do it directly with the amplified coils, as the driving circuitry is completely separate to the ECU.
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by rocar »

So it is impossible using dta with 16v injectors ?
Even if I driving through a injector driver?
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by Alex DTA »

Correct

If the ECU has a 12v feed, and the injector a 16v feed, you will have a 4v offset which will be enough to keep the injector open.
You can't run 16v to the ECU reliably, as you've found out. It was never designed with that in mind.
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by rocar »

So I can’t even put a step down on ecu only...
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by stevieturbo »

Surely a low impedance driver box, effectively isolates the injector load from the ecu ?

or does it only intercept the trigger wiring ?

I doubt any solid state relay would ever work, but perhaps what some use for ignition drivers ?
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by Alex DTA »

stevieturbo wrote:Surely a low impedance driver box, effectively isolates the injector load from the ecu ?
I didn't know these existed. As long as they're able to cope with 16v, then yes.
stevieturbo wrote:I doubt any solid state relay would ever work, but perhaps what some use for ignition drivers ?
Effectively the same thing, but as mentioned above, proper research and quality required.
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by rocar »

I have three of these one for each four injectors.
https://www.fueltech.net/collections/in ... -2a-driver

What about 14v, would harm ECU ?
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Re: Amps/injectors

Post by stevieturbo »

If everything else on the car is happy at 16v...it would probably be easier to run it all at 16v, and then find a solution for reducing the voltage to the engine ecu.

Which should be pretty easy, as the ecu itself would require very little power/current ?
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