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Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:09 am
by cooberpedy
Hi all,
my ignition amplifiers have rising edge on the trigger instead of the common falling edge.
Is there an option in software where I can select the ignition trigger edge on S100?

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:41 am
by Alex DTA
Yes, tick Externally Amplified Coils, that will invert the signal.

Is there a reason you want to keep the amplifiers? The ECU can probably drive the coils directly (unless they are CDI). One less failure point.

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:08 am
by cooberpedy
Yes, good point.
Initially, my plan was to reuse the built in knock- / missfire detection of the amplifier units. But I'm not sure if I can get it to work.....as these ion-sensing units are quite comlex ;) :roll:

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:09 pm
by stevieturbo
I'm not aware of any aftermarket ecu that uses the ion sensing of the old Saab coils

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:40 am
by cooberpedy
agree, so my plan was to hook up my own controller along with the S100 to the ion sensing amplifiers along with the S100 and see if I can get it to work, not in closed loop, as this would require a special "retard on knock" input for the S100, but at least for tuning or diagnosis. I'm using BMW S85 units.

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:18 am
by Alex DTA
If your controller can output a 0 - 5V output, you can input that in to one of the analogues and pull timing that way.

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:23 am
by cooberpedy
Whats the sampling rate of the ANA inputs? If they are fast enough it could work.

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:13 pm
by Alex DTA
a few times every millisecond, so that should be fast enough for that engine

Re: Ignition Amplifier with rising edge trigger

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:29 am
by cooberpedy
OK, I have an ignition event about every 1.4ms at max. rpm. That leaves a little room for applying a filter function.