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 Post subject: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:13 pm 
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Thought I'd share this tidbit - I ordered the "Motec Universal Crimper" from Apex Speed and low and behold its a Delphi crimper P/N 12085271

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Del ... 2FcEpWw%3D

I crimped a couple of the DTA S80 pins in position C and E. C is too large, E was just right. It is a ratcheting crimper. It flattened the pin just a little bit, but it still fit into the Tyco/Amp shell just fine.

Just trying to save people the trouble/money if they want to try it!

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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:47 pm 
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I use a blue handled tyco thing that does both crimps at once. Was expensive, but works well. I wouldn't rely on a connection with one of those crimpers you have there for the ECU, it doesn't go small enough - mind you I'm using 20 and 22AWG mil-spec wire for most of the connections.

I use that crimper you have shown for larger roll-crimp type terminals, Lucar, splices etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:06 pm 
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ignitionautosport wrote:
I use a blue handled tyco thing that does both crimps at once. Was expensive, but works well. I wouldn't rely on a connection with one of those crimpers you have there for the ECU, it doesn't go small enough - mind you I'm using 20 and 22AWG mil-spec wire for most of the connections.

I use that crimper you have shown for larger roll-crimp type terminals, Lucar, splices etc.


Got any images/part numbers?

The crimpers I am using seem to work well

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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:23 am 
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I'll try and find out. Will put images up.

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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:30 am 
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We use a Tyco Pro-Crimper frame with a die set.

This is what Motec in Australia sell people for their ECUs which use the same connector as the DTA.

Depending on the size of the terminals and wire you are using you often have to double crimp - crimp in a large die, then drop down to the next size die to complete the crimp.

If you are using large wire the Packard tool supplied above MAY do the job, but I would not recommend it.

Has anyone here tried the Knipex branded tool with dies for barrel crimps? The tools are expensive here in NZ, but if they are better than the Pro-Crimper solution we will move to them.


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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:11 am 
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I got mine from MSEL, who I see is on here now ;)
www.msel.co.nz and contact them for pricing etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:13 am 
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I have used a Laser branded ratchet crimper, cost me £25 from SimetekUk, does the job just fine :)


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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:20 pm 
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MSEL wrote:
We use a Tyco Pro-Crimper frame with a die set.

This is what Motec in Australia sell people for their ECUs which use the same connector as the DTA.

Depending on the size of the terminals and wire you are using you often have to double crimp - crimp in a large die, then drop down to the next size die to complete the crimp.

If you are using large wire the Packard tool supplied above MAY do the job, but I would not recommend it.

Has anyone here tried the Knipex branded tool with dies for barrel crimps? The tools are expensive here in NZ, but if they are better than the Pro-Crimper solution we will move to them.


On the old forum I posted links to the Knipex tool and dies. I originally found them for sale on a South African Motec dealers site
very nice piece of kit, but yes not cheap.

oops, edit, it was German

http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/products ... Crimptools

We did have part numbers for each bit on the old forum. Not sure if anyone retained them ?


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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:27 am 
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Sorry to bump this one back up, but would the following crimper be any good for doing the DTA connector pins?

http://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457. ... 71-Crimper


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 Post subject: Re: Motec Universal Crimper
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:45 am 
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looks like it would, just less clamping force and not as nicely finished as the expensive things


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