False Crank Sensor Triggering

Discuss which Sensors work best with these ECUs and share how you are using inputs and outputs
alistai_Westy
Posts: 16
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:17 am
ECU Model: S40 Pro
Firmware Version: 79.0

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by alistai_Westy »

It looks like im stuffed.

My only suggestion is to plug another ECU in and see if the problem is hanging around like a bad smell.

Anyone got one to try?

Sparrow:

Can you help with this?

Cheers

Al
Rob Stevens
Posts: 1250
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:10 am
ECU Model: S100 Pro
Distributor: None-Coil On Plug :)

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by Rob Stevens »

Can you try a new dedicated +12v ecu to battery supply just for testing.
stevieturbo
Posts: 3588
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:08 pm
ECU Model: No ECU
Location: Norn Iron

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by stevieturbo »

Rob Stevens wrote:Can you try a new dedicated +12v ecu to battery supply just for testing.
Not a bad idea.

And perhaps even a power supply completely isolated from the car itself unless that's what Rob means.

ie a battery sitting away from the car, and in no way attached to the car, just the ecu.
alistai_Westy
Posts: 16
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:17 am
ECU Model: S40 Pro
Firmware Version: 79.0

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by alistai_Westy »

Good idea.

I will pull the battery out the car and supply the ecu with two new leads and then put an electrical load on the battery and listen for the injector firing.

Cheers chaps
alistai_Westy
Posts: 16
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:17 am
ECU Model: S40 Pro
Firmware Version: 79.0

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by alistai_Westy »

I've found the root cause of the problem. This is what I did.

I left the car battery in place and used it to power the cars electrical loads as normal.

I totally removed the ECU and loom from the car except the crank sensor. I then powered the ECU from another battery. The two systems are now separate.

The fault still remains.......

I then disconnected the crank sensor and plugged the loom connector into a spare sensor that I have. I moved the sensor around the car. I found that the fault appears when the sensor is less than 12 inches from the car battery.

The crank sensor on the engine is less than 12 inches from the battery (in its normal position on the car).

Does anyone know how to shield the battery? What materials etc?
I don't have another position in the engine bay for the battery. I could reposition it in the rear of the car but don't really want to do this.

Chaps, thank again for all your thoughts and help.

Maybe this pain will help someone else out there at some point.
corsaboy
Posts: 70
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:55 am
ECU Model: S40 Pro
Firmware Version: 79
Location: The Netherlands
Contact:

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by corsaboy »

Euhm..... I know that these sensors could be sensitive but not so much..
Is the shielding correct of the sensor and/or correct wired to the DTA??
Vauxhall Corsa C20XE Powered by Eaton M90
stevieturbo
Posts: 3588
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:08 pm
ECU Model: No ECU
Location: Norn Iron

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by stevieturbo »

Weeeiiirrrdddd !!!

Try a different battery in the car ?

Try a different sensor ?

Are you using proper twisted shielded wire ?

Could you switch to a hall sensor ?
User avatar
ignitionautosport
Posts: 577
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:30 am
ECU Model: S80 Pro
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by ignitionautosport »

Sensor mount vibrating... could be small voltages are filtered out when running but treated as triggers when not. More thinking out loud and not electrical related, but heard of it happening.
| '94 GSR Lancer | '96 Toyota Carib 20V | '83 Toyota Starlet | www.ignitionautosport.co.nz |
Alex DTA
Posts: 1623
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:03 pm
ECU Model: S40 Pro
Distributor: DTA
Firmware Version: 79

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by Alex DTA »

I'm stumped.

Worth Googleing to see what others have done?
lumley32
Posts: 214
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 5:09 pm
ECU Model: S80 Pro
Firmware Version: 61

Re: False Crank Sensor Triggering

Post by lumley32 »

is the battery in a box of any sort? if not then try a grounded sheet of aluminium in between.

i cant see that a battery thats working correctly can make any inductive noise could be a lose plate inside?
Post Reply