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Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:52 pm
by stevieturbo
No, it's nothing like what is required. I have one of those. They are for normal flat blade style.
The DTA/Motec/whatever requires a finished round crimp. Ive no doubt there are tools out there, it's just finding the right one.
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:32 pm
by Bollah
Cheers Stevie, saved me buying the wrong ones. Bit having a look around some more and found this on CPC, I'm presuming these are better suited?
http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/1402-d-subop ... -225d.html
Cheers
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:59 pm
by ignitionautosport
Those look too large, esp on the open/wire lead end. I'd suggest getting hold of of the guys at
msel.co.nz and see what they can do, that's where I got mine. Assuming they'll ship overseas and it's cost effective.
They are crimpers designed for something else, but a washer under the guide makes them perfect spacing (would understand if you saw them) and works perfect every time. I believe msel have different ones now also but haven't seen them - think they said that in a phone call a while ago.
Or I can find out, put my mark-up on them and sell them to you
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:24 pm
by stevieturbo
Too difficult to tell. If the image is correct it does not produce a round crimp though. And no idea what size the finished piece is.
I find it amazing that given how common these damn crimps are, crimp tools should be available everywhere !
Looked on that Msel website. Dont see any crimp tools at all ?
Some googling reveals these. Contact them to ensure the item is right first though;. But Motec, Haltech, DTA and many other ecu's use these same ecu plugs/pins these days
http://store.apexspeedtech.com/motec-un ... crimp-tool
http://www.m-cal.com/Products/MC70-3680 ... Type-Pins)
Some interesting looking ones here.
http://whiteproducts.com/cetools.shtml
Looks like an ebay seller selling them. Maybe he can confirm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-U-BARREL-CRI ... 0903182158
Another guy makes reference to these being suitable
http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.c ... e=HWS16166
or definitely the right tool. Their price isnt too bad either compared to some
http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/products ... Crimptools
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:34 pm
by stevieturbo
And in my searching, a good thread on the crimp/solder debate.
http://fsae.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1256 ... 3010954411
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:35 am
by Bollah
Many thanks for the links and advise there Stevieturbo. It looks like I'll end up ordered a crimper from the states, I can't justify spending silly money on a crimper that I'm only going to use for half a dozen pins to allow me to wire in the wideband sensor, gearbox sensor and undriven wheel speed.
BTW, I take it you have seen the video I filmed of you at TOTB8 on youtube?
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:32 pm
by stevieturbo
Some of the crimpers above arent expensive. It's just knowing whether they are suitable or not.
As much as it isnt the correct way, I just squished mine with pliers and soldered them. Although some of them required a good shove to get into the housing afterwards lol
I think I removed the weatherproof seal to make it easier. My ecu will never be exposed to a damp environment so dont need it anyway
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:17 pm
by Rob Stevens
I've got one of those and it's fairly crap, but I stick with it for some reason.
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:18 pm
by Rob Stevens
Re: Motec Universal Crimper
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:05 pm
by stevieturbo
Yea, it's ok for normal non-insulated terminals that require that crimper. Just ok though.
But nothing like the ecu connector ones.
of all of the cheapish ones, these look very possible.
http://whiteproducts.com/cetools.shtml