hall effect sensor

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fast944
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hall effect sensor

Post by fast944 »

To install hall effect sensor crank and cam on a S60 do I need resistor, better use NPN or PNP sensor, better 5 volts or 12 volts ?
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stevieturbo
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Re: hall effect sensor

Post by stevieturbo »

Pretty sure it's NPN, voltage is irrelevant and dependent on what the specific sensor wants.
fast944
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Re: hall effect sensor

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sensor are rated 5 to 24 volts because 5 volts it is at the limit I figure 12 volts will be better special at cranking not shure 5 volts will be acurate but not shure input of the ecu will like 12 volts instead of 5 volts ??
katana
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Re: hall effect sensor

Post by katana »

As DTA specify a 5v rail for all sensor feeds, I would assume a 12v sensor would cause issues as the ecu is just looking for 0v - 5v square wave. The 5v rail should be regulated and independent of the 12v power feed that are more likely to be affected during cranking / cold starting.
stevieturbo
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Re: hall effect sensor

Post by stevieturbo »

fast944 wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:15 pm sensor are rated 5 to 24 volts because 5 volts it is at the limit I figure 12 volts will be better special at cranking not shure 5 volts will be acurate but not shure input of the ecu will like 12 volts instead of 5 volts ??
Not all hall sensors will output 12v even though they are powered as such..I wouldn't worry.

Engine speed is irrelevant for a hall sensor.
SMR
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Re: hall effect sensor

Post by SMR »

I've used various hall sensors for wheel speed sensors and some have needed a minimum of 8v, so I fee them 12v; the output is usually still a 0-5v signal.

Have you considered using a magnetic two-wire sensor for the crank; there must be a reason all the bike engines do it this way - is it a more reliable signal?

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Re: hall effect sensor

Post by Jon K »

I have found that while hall effect gives a scientifically more "accurate" sensor (near-zero RPM speed required, etc.) the 2-wire magnetic VR sensors handle engine speed triggers better especially with high tooth counts. That's been my experience. I went and put hall effect (Cherry) with adjustable gap on BMW engines and ended up converting back to VR. Cam sensors work great hall effect.
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